You said it seems to me that they want to destroy the investigation I agree with you that it seems intentional to some degree. I knew there was a lot of interest in the case but I never expected to find a sophisticated group collaborating at this level. Tourists Killed in Mexico Is it Safe to Go Now? - Yahoo! Therefore, if Kris Kremers is normal and happy, as she appears to be in this photo (and in the other photos in the series), it means that things took a bad turn for them relatively soon after the photo above was taken. The rock isnt about the twig its got chunks of flesh and blood splatter all over it to the right and back of rock. Take care. Hi Jason, thanks for you comment. The picture where she is crossing the stream and looking back, her smile looks forced. One of them probably fell got hurt, a local found them said they would help and well they didnt help they killed them and dumped in River knowing the river would remove any evidence. Here is the comparison: I cover a lot of these things in my other comprehensive article regarding Kris Kremers Bones: There are simply too many variables involved to oversimplify the case with the conclusion that they got lost. Who said they didnt? The circular part looks like vines to me, but the portion in the middle has potential to be a cow skull. It is cooler at those altitudes but also inside the forest it will be more humid. The Panamanian government had requested that the U.S. deploy assets including Navy salvage divers and sonar to aid in the search effort and locate the wreckage in the days after the crash, but the request was denied due to a lack of assets and jurisdiction, according to a statement from the Velleman and Borries families. ITS SHAPED LIKE A BRA. They usually drown their victims, hit and run car accidents, or just disappear the victim, etc anything that ensures theres no obvious intent to the police. This is something I will surely investigate more and write about in the future. Theres a circular object hanging to the left of Kris. exactly, you are very right about the shape of her arms and facial expression. Kremers'slocked phone showed someone entered awrong PINseveral times. Hi Birgitte, thank you for your comment. It is clear they contributed much to this by their actions. On the bottom right of the photo it looks as though her hair is wrapped around somebodys fingers, or rather someone has their fingers wrapped around her hair. I find it odd that the young American girl was murdered not long after this not far away as with the taxi driver who was found depended likely murdered. However, a lot of the photos seem to have been tampered with and one of them was even deleted from their camera, which could only have been done using a computer. The following insight will make not make much sense to you if you dont know their story. A closer look at mysterious disappearances that continue to baffle detectives. Seems weird. The families are now working on having the womens' remains brought back to the U.S., he said. It doesnt matter. German Tourist Sexually Assaulted After Being Lost In Panama's Jungles If you can rule out getting lost or falling off the trail in that circle, all my money is on foul Subsequent analysis revealed that on April 4, Froons phone battery became exhausted, but between April 5 and April 11, Kremers iPhone was turned on multiple times but whoever turned it on didnt enter the PIN code correctly. There are dead animals and skeletons strewn all across the ground. The structure at the back of this small ravine looks like a hideout that a military man might make, as part of survival training in the jungle. Exhausted and waited somewhere near water for days. It was taken on the Continental Divide exactly 14 minutes and 12 seconds after their photos at the Mirador. She must therefore be in a house or building of some kind and therefore being kept prisoner at least for the 8 days before that photo was taken. Dimedes Abrego - 12 years in prison. The main areas of tourism in the country focus on business tourism, beaches, health and trade. This photo has been edited. OK I see the conspiracy theorists saying someone else had their phones but who else would know to try 112 which is the common emergency number for EU countries? I dont believe that anything ominous is happening to Kris in this specific photo. Stop trying to read too much into it. Shortly after this, they became victims. While posing with sticking out your tongue means for a Dutch native you found something disgusting, especially while simultaneously closing your eyes. It is extremely easy to photoshop a photo once it has been darkened. Shes clearly holding a bottle of water in her left hand in front of her. However there appear to be yellowish/beige shadows and it looks like a sandstone cliff. The mans face is clearly visible standing behind the rock with the red bags. Also, no organ stealing, no cartels, no people traffickers, nothing to do with tribes, cults, sects, etc. And one of the branches near the middle appears to have scales or a pattern not natural to a tree branch. Like local tribesmen. Another important detail was disclosed to the public: Hctor Abrego was actively searching for the missing . They were only 2 weeks into their trip and only on their 4th day in Boquete so they were innocents abroad and would have been broadcasting that to all who cared to look. Highly probable. This either meant Lisanne Froon was conscious while Kris was not, and tried to call emergency services, or that a third party tried to get into her phone but didnt succeed. Los expertos en conductas humanas (psiclogos, antroplogos, etc. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_JheETl6Obg. They are 99.999999% preventable. Chilling photos reveal final moments of missing hikers in Panama jungle This is a fake and the pixellation errors can be seen up close (the gap in the crook of her right arm is IN FRONT OF her). The blood on her leg is, again, a shadow. And look at it from this point of view. https://koudekaas.blogspot.com/2019/12/the-disappearance-of-kris-kremers-and.html. I cant explain it but again it resembles so many of the bizarre cases which author and former cop David Paulides has brought (thousands of these similar events) right here in the US and Canada. Yes, you are correct that numerous communities do work hard to bring criminals to justice. Hello Chris, did you ever get any background on the statements made by Joseph? Make sure you contact someone with this info. That way, no downloads are necessary. Why no video diary? Most people in Panama dont have the expertise, nor equipment to handle these sophisticated tasks. Nice investigation. Were the photos altered in any way or is this a presumption? Has anyone thought to look further into the hosts dog (Blue)? Many people in El Salvador permit their dogs to roam freely outside in the streets and forests. Froon had a Canon Powershot SX270 HS which contained numerous photos, many of which were of the period of time leading up to the day of the girls disappearance. Thanks for some new information, excellent analysis of the photo! They decided to take that short hike, but they failed to tell anyone where they were going and what time to expect them back. Maybe you can find more answers about this horrible story. The FBI and others have continuously tried to stonewall him from publicly making these cases and their bizarre circumstances publicly known. The night picture she is standing in same spot and someone is doing something to her lower leg or foot ,you can see them under her. Article about our trip plans: Research Team Update Support Us, Campaign Link: Mapping The Jungle Trails Of Panama. Could it be the same man in both photos. His family told Fox News that he had been traveling by himself and he was in good health. Hi Chris, i uploaded the photo to show what i see. Thanks, John. Would they really have gone along a dark spooky ravine, which is obviously a dead end, if they were trying to find their way back to Boquete? Bringing justice to assailants that harm tourists is very often not a top priority, and it shows through the number of botched investigations. What do you think?? Being in a foreign country, in the tropical rainforests, especially for young curious minds, is a very unique experience. Or another type of colorful animal found in the jungle? Apparently this villager travelled abroad, adopted extremist Christian views, returned home and started a cult in his own village which resulted in human sacrifices of other locals. The backpack contained sunglasses, a camera, two cell phones,money,two bras, Froon's passport, and a water bottle. At that time, she had her phone. Once they examined the phones, investigators unraveled a confusing and grim timeline. She ties the red bags to branches so they can spot her if they get near. Is it possible that there is a building or some sort of structure behind the vegetation? So if you look behind her bottom theres a patch of light which is the light at the other end of this tunnel and shes holding her right hand up to her face to sweep back a piece of hair. If it is a photo-op, why is Kris not waving her hands or something. I think the left arm is visible behind her hanging down. There are plenty of reasonable explanations for why someone would have returned the phones and the backpack. and then found by someone and then the real nightmare started. December 17, 2022. My question is: Who has the ability to manipulate both the cameras internal storage database and the photos? It looks straight and like it may go over the eye and above it. Also I see a black pipe if you look carefully near one of the red and black objects the one that was circled. play. There are flaws in the manipulations, such as the photo timeline, the inconsistent resolutions, the missing photo (or video), the red lines on the shirt, incorrect shadow positioning, etc. First calls at 16:39 then nothing again for 14 hours? Do u know if this particular spot was apart of the trail they went on? The families continued to plead with the U.S. government to send equipment and personnel to aid in the search and recovery effort. Also theres a distinct small x made of branches or plastic in the top-mid right corner of the pic amongst the foliage that looks a part of the make shift roof/net. One day in June, the tribespeople bring him what he wants; The backpacks and the bodies. A lot of times countries dont want investigations to be publicized or they shut them down as best they can in order for their tourist trade to not be hurt!!!!! Thank you so much for walking the walk. Her skin does not look pallid like that of a dead person, it is still pink. Well be mapping the trails with a GPS device, searching for the location of the night photos and capturing aerial footage of the rivers in the region. 9.3 million tourists visited Australia in 2019 (year ending June 2019). If the dog went with them, its likely that the girls would have taken a photo of the dog, even if the dog was in a photo accidentally. Even on my iPhone I could make it big enough to see odd things in the pic. Hi Anna, youre casting a wide net when you say If anything, they work harder to try and bring anyone to justice that harms a tourist.. After investigating further, I discovered this article from the LA Times: https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-01-18/cult-anointed-by-god-kills-7-in-panama-jungle, The LA Times article states The sect arose after a villager returned to the community several months ago following a stint abroad, bringing back unusual religious beliefs with him.. Im not sure if people can really talk with animals but i sure would try and see by calling on a few and get their opinion. Despite these . Thats from her palm. If the Calderas photo is genuine as you believe, then I sadly think the two girls were killed shortly after by the two young men (and possibly the taxi driver), and the police knew and bumped the lot off. In truth, the fact that theres no evidence that the dog was with them leads a person to believe that perhaps someone could have fabricated the fact that the dog was with them. If the culprit is not brought to book, the rest of the world says it is to protect the tourist industry. No sir, just ordinary incompetence. If their experience was catastrophic that that happened shortly before 16:36 UNLESS both were incapacitated and sense only returned at 16:36. 100 calls to 911, and NOT ONE attempted call to immediate family? What Really Happened To Two Dutch Hikers Who Disappeared In Panama? The BLUE object on ground could be a BRA. I suspect the timestamps on some images are incorrect. Of course these generalities and cultural traits do not apply to everyone here. Sue and Dennis Borries are pictured in an undated image. Although it might be the sun that gives her face a strange expression. In the leaked images some 90% of the original information is irretrievably lost trying to read anything into any of the remaining spots and splotches is fools errand. The girls were no longer alive after April 2nd latest. But I see him in none of L&Ks photos. There is one thing I have wondered about, when did the dog leave them? Kris Kremers, 21, and Lisanne Froon, 22, were hiking near the town of. I agree. Lisanne or Kriss hair and head 4. the dried short (Kriss) 5. both fell but their belongings were intact, no cracks in the phone? Could be that the path turns sharp right or left (out of the frame) or continues up ahead after a short scramble. How many tourists go to Australia? They showed an incredibly brave independence which was repaid with murder. How certain are we that they started at the trail head as we are told? This is because people who knew the area were able to recognize that the nighttime photos were likely taken at Caldera springs, more than 20 miles from the area the girls allegedly went missing at. On April 1, the 21-year-old and 22-year-old went for a walk through the scenic forests around the Baru Volcano in Boquete. by Chris | Jan 29, 2020 | Crime Abroad, Kris Kremers. The Lost Girls of Panama: The Full Story. How many tourists go missing in Australia each year? Thats why Kris stops in photos once in a while as if to say this way, right?. In Latin America, it is as common as drinking coffee. The jungle knows how to keep its secrets. What is that clear brown glass-looking circle in the upper righthand corner? There is an illustration drawn on Kriss back in the hair photo. Is this in dispute? Does anyone know where this photo was taken in relation to their happy photos taken at the top of the Continental divide? So, their work was good but not perfect. On April 3, 2014, authorities began an aerial search of the forests and an on-foot search ofBoquete. The sun is shining right into her eyes so shes squinting and bending down a bit to see her friend, who was probably talking to her while snapping the photo. You can bet your life if someone was with them at that point, then they were the culprits who had something to do with the girls disappearance. There was no signal!! But even when a phone is locked after thee attempts the screen says emergency calls only. Gang initiation rights are unknown these small gangs dont have an official policy as you might see with the larger gangs its usually just do as we say and well protect you. If there are documented river paths, this could be a way to find that exact same location. Also, the parents did not release all the images. The 2020 cristian massacre was committed by a couple of men who were definitively altered in their state and heard voices etc. The camera had a video function this could have been used including of course sound. Ive seen cases in which political frenemies were erased out of photos without a trace. The branches above her could be an attempt to hide the entrance. Unfortunately the resolution is not high enough to identify any specific shapes, although it appears to contain the colors white and red. After cops searched the area where the backpack was found, they discovered Kris' clothes neatly folded along the edge of the river. I hope someday the family has answers. From my understanding, the various teams communicate with each other about which parts of the case they are investigating, and collaborate occasionally to share information. For a monster (him or them) this was enjoyment. Weird. You highlight the importance of fastidiousness in the articles that I reference. I suppose incompetence runs at many levels. Theres a lot of information in the photos but people are willfully blind to it for some reason. He has collected much that is out there but still the majority is second hand and we have no information as to the voracity. Im always reviewing their case and looking for answers. "The Sun", "Sun", "Sun Online" are registered trademarks or trade names of News Group Newspapers Limited. If you think America is safe you are ignorant! Thats suspicious and leads me to question if government was involved to some degree. So its kind of curious that the most critical images are either cropped or missing entirely. Its almost as if Kris is in the midst of turning back around at the moment this photo is taken, due to the foliage becoming too dense to proceed any further. Nobody is safe. Im sure that when they left on that short hike that their intention was to be back home before dark and to be back to the host home for supper on time. Wearing minimal clothing, no knife of compass which were left in their room. She has no idea that her parents are about to arrive in Panama. Also, the other ones arent covered by man-made support structures. P.S. If I saw a cow skull hanging in a tree I would get the hell out of there, not pose for a photo. Do you think this could be at all relevant? Why? The red is the sunlight shining through the dead curled leaves. Looks like 2 blurred out people one talker than other behind her over her left shoulder or her left when looking left of pic. After exhaustive thought, my theory: First, respect to family, friends, and the good. Dogs here are seen as animals (like a jaguar or puma) that can take care of themselves, theyre seen as being dirty (not permitted on furniture) and are more rugged, like the dog can handle his own problems. This option is least likely, because wed obviously see something more tangible in the photos. In fact, Im almost certain of it. There seems to be no pictures of the dog. https://photos.app.goo.gl/nVA1PDjjeVwULeo66. From my own gutt feeling I see only a very preventable accident. There is no traces of them anywhere. The dog came back, but the young women didn't. Feel free to comment again or send me an email. Theres no evidence that animals scavenged the Holandesas., Panamanian IMELCF Forensic Anthropologist, This is from the Daily Beast interview with Jeremy Kryt titled: The Lost Girls, the Bones, and the Man in the Panama Morgue. The left-side of her head is not hair or her hand, but just the foliage in the background. I do not think this case fits the criteria of missing 411. If you zoom in on the picture, I noticed that her face almost seems distorted, almost as though it was swelled up? It could help shed more light onto the possible answer to the mystery. Kriss in the photo is just watching her step. Links that require download are high-risk by their very nature, so please consider uploading your media to a website like imgur.com or a similar alternative. Websites/blogs speculate about why, but nothing has been confirmed. . Yes, exactly. Im happy my work could shed some light on the possible items in the picture.

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