1.) You will be, essentially, making 38 Short Colt. Jack it up a notch and go with .327 Federal Magnum. Magnum 44 S&W Special 45 Colt 45 Auto 45 G.A.P 9mm Luger 9x18mm Makarov 32 S&W Long (Cowboy Action) 32-20 Win. Main fame for the .38 is now the J frame size revolvers, as a CCW gun. You have entered an incorrect email address! Bullseye and NRA Distinguished Revolver 2 and No. Ive saved all my .38 brass over the last couple of years for whenever I find time to get into reloading. WST for .38 special 125 gr plated bullets - Bullseye Forum My other son fired one shot and handed it back. I just bought some 158 gr SWC bullets that are pure lead. Powered by Invision Community, 125 grain plated flat point in 38 Special. A significant difference in speeds is usually noted. I have found that some powder coated bullets which are the same weight as lead, feel quite punchy out of the gun. Bullseye or Titegroup cover 90% or more of my .38 Special loadings. Bullseye is a little smoky, a lot sooty, and has a distinct odor. Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue. Accurate's No. Tim: The Lyman 49th edition lists the accuracy loads for their cast bullets. 9mm 125 gr RN Lead Cast Bullets for Reloading - Stateline Bullets i had the same issues you did when i was trying to load for my DR revolver 14-3. to light of power had a soft recoil but ungodly bad accuracy. Swaged bullets do not have the hardness of poured (cast) lead. You are spot on about Trail Boss, that stuff is magical with cast reloads. Maybe its just my age, but I may never shoot a 38 again after discovering the 32. September 2015 S.W.A.T. Not in that order. Speer .38 shot cup, 5 grains of UNIQUE, and (3) #1 Buckshot pellets dates back to the 70s as a Junk Yard Dog load. If you are new to reloading. But for plinking, they'd be fine. i use a Lee mold 150 round nose with 4 grains of bullseye crimped into the crimp groove of the bullet. The design of this modern revolver makes the SW guns seem archaic. My Ruger LCR .357 Magnum is pleasant to shoot even with full pressure loads. defensive ammo. Load with 38 S&W data. Bullseye is the classic pistol powder and the backbone of many pet loads. I fired 3 Remington 125 SJHP 357s from a 340 and thought i had nerve damage in my hand. Even slower powders may provide more consistent speeds and will be tested in the future (No. Ready to load some Berry's148 gr plated DE wadcutters with Bullseye. in a belt holster at 4:00. Alliant listed 3.6 gr Bullseye as maximum (15000 psi) in 38 Special and 3.8 as max in 38 Special PLUS P (17000 psi) with 158 LSWC bullets. 38 special reloaders | The Firearms Forum 2, No. Great article & thread!!! Were all familiar with the old adage, Never bring a knife to a gunfight. And while we should, The active shooter is a relatively new phenomenon in the grand scheme of things. TITEGROUP AND 125GR 38 SPECIAL LOAD DATA Ammunition-Gunsmithing Reloading Forum Register Notices Consider Becoming A Supporting Member Click HERE For The Benefits Reloading All Reloading Topics Go Here Thread Tools Display Modes # 1 01-24-2016, 05:38 AM RONALD HENSLEY Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Waynesville NC Posts: 114 Likes: 12 125 Gr. bullets in the 38 Special - The Firing Line Forums Great to get the Mrs out there! And for 99% of the actual real world needs of a citizen for self defense it will work just fine. Click there and go to the load data lookup section . No benchrest, nothing but two shakey hands holding the pistol. This Cast Reloading Bullet feeds great in automatics and has excellent accuracy in both the 9mm and 38 Super. Dont get me wrong: I think the Smith and Wesson Model 642 Airweight revolver is an outstanding self-defense (concealed carry) revolver and you wont feel/care about how snappy/unpleasant the recoil may be in a real self-defense event. (This is prevalent among most aftermarket designs- they are smallest in the longest, strongest finger area, and largest at the bottom pinkie area.). Interesting. Midwest Supply Group. CORBON 38SPL+P 125GR JHP 20/500 The flyers tend to be severe. Robert Frost. But still nothing under 3.5". 4.) I found some data for 148 and 158 gr bullets but no published data on the 125s. I thought about trying 2.5 gr. Disclaimer, I own or owned all the super calibers out there except the casull, theyre all fun and quite useful in some scenarios, but dont discount the old timer. I recently picked up a 396 Nightguard and am a convert to the 44 Special! I don't completely understand the physics behind it. They all shot horrible at 25 yards. Both are excellent fight stoppers. Speer shows 3.9 to 4.5 grains for a double end lead wadcutter but I'm thinking that may be a little strong for a plated bullet. Depends on what kind of load you're after. Honestly, plated bullets won't give you the level of accuracy needed for bullseye competition, even at 25 yards. I routinely use only two powders: Trail Boss and Titegroup. Wes, SASS Wire rules prohibit posting specific load data on the forum, but it can be passed along via private message or email. .38 Special is a lot more comfortable in a service size revolver like my Model 10. Very little recoil, and grouped acceptably out to 15 yards or so. 38 special 125gr copper plated HP38 reloading data Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. That's usually +P power level in .38 Special. IMHO .38 special is just fine for self defense, but just not enough to crack engine blocks. Ive loaded some wadcutters to the point of being flush with the case mouth and big lead bullets almost to the front of the cylinder. Thanks for your help. 3.7gr WST with Zero 158 SWC did the job for me. Anyone that uses a J frame S&W should seriously think about swapping grips, and finding which set works for them. Many reloading manuals also list an estimated pressure with a given load. Its worth mentioning that loaders do all kinds of obsessive rituals to squeeze the groups down. Because we have no action to cycle, the novice reloader can afford to be off a bit if they have an entry-level scale or powder dispenser. I keep thinking about trading it for a Model 27 or, maybe, one of the new Pythons for extra weight. Heck, 38s in a J frame arent fun- theres no way a 327 Mag isnt worse. Just look for a lead remover tool with bronze screens. A gun on you always works better than the gun left at home. I probably shoot more 38s than everything else put together but a Dillon 750 makes loading a lot faster. I use CCI Snake shot for two and Buffalo Bore short Barrel 130 gr. Compac for my little finger to wrap around under the butt. Winchester only published load for WST in 38 special using lead bullets if you look at the data for the 158 data the start load goes from 3.3 Gr and a max load of 3.7 Gr. https://www.bullseyeforum.net/t2221-distinguished-revolver-loads-that-don-t-suck. I always used mixed brass because it was all I had. I simply took mixed brass and ran em through the Hornady Lock-N-Load AP press with the bare minimum preparation. I have several manuals and some say that this load is a low +p, some say it is not, but it is very accurate. IIRC, I used 4.5 gr of Bullseye under a 125 gr lead bullet for a light plinker, and 5.6 gr of Bullseye under a 148 gr wadcutter (~815 fps, 4" bbl, probably around 750 fps out of a snub). * Most DNR (Do Not Reduce) loads are well over 900-fps. Battis, if you go to the very bottom of this page you will see Castpics. Bonus is the CT #305 grips are both large enough to be actually useful, and can use the laser, or turn it off if you dont need the laser. You are absolutely correct. New to Reloading-Unique powder recipes for .38 special Main issue is that the .44 spl. Winchester 231 is between Bullseye and Unique for the .38 special (see my personal load above). Modern .38 spl std HP load is more than enough, dont over think it. VihtaVuori Oy Company, reloading booklet (1995) Numerous magazine articles on reloading special calibers and personal loads where noted. Is it more bulky? I can get away with using it as cast w/ alox. I once had to quote the South Carolina Supreme Court when they had spelled it loathe., Regards, Help with 38 Special Load with Bullseye - The Firing Line Forums hebyta These are light and easy to shoot. For best accuracy in slow fire shooting, you may want to raise gun before every shot. Load shot well out of a variety of service handguns. WC, 158 gr. in 158 weight berry's bullet 3.8 grains of bullseye with a taper crimp. Thanks very much to LarryinTX for that! The Charter Arms .44 models are potential CCWs, but are too light to properly handle the .44 spl. The manufacturing process of swaged bullets requires relatively soft lead for two reasons. I was just trying to get a general consensus of what other guys were using. You have never indicated what barrel length or brand or frame size you may be using these in. Extremely light loads for 38 Special revolver - The Firearms Forum The big medicine was delivered by a 1911, but S&W K frames (favorites were Models 12 & 64) took care of everything else. I've tried Berry's plated as well as Remington. Min Charge Max Charge Optimal Charge Bullet Make Bullet Type Primer Notes; Hodgdon - 700-X: 125 gr. I may have to rethink my plan. Does anyone have experience with loading WST for 125 gr plates bullets or a place to start the research/testing? A 158 SWCHP at 850-875 fps from a snub. Winchester 231 is between Bullseye and Unique for the .38 special (see my personal load above). . If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. I am aware of the plated bullet limitations on BE accuracy and am more interested in them for their "plinkability". I completely understand the respect for the performance of the 327 Fed, but not being a big fan of the 357 Mag (or 38 SPL plus P for that matter) I havent been drawn to the 327. Ive played with several that I like, but the classic in 9mm is 4.4 grains driving a 115-grain jacketed bullet. However recoil will be the limiting factor especially for the short line. The cases are large enough that they can be easily manipulated by inexperienced hands and yet small enough to not require much force in the sizing stage. Id pay at least a dollar to see it. WAP, WMR, WSF, WSL, 760, 748, 231 and 540 are products of Winchester, Components Div. I cannot begin to fathom shooting 20,000 rounds out of that revolver! But its also worth considering that its pushing the same size and weight projectile at the same velocity as the standard Army revolver load during the Civil War. I started reloading 38 special as my first cartridge 8 years ago when I was 22, soooo.I have an old mans soul? I, like Spartacus, find the SAAMI recommendations an interesting spec for comparative purposes. Prefer to use the CT model 305 laser grips in lieu of S&W grips. .38 special has got to be one of the best calibers there is . JHP, 125 gr. Bullseye is primarily associated with .38 and .45after all, it says right on the bottle: Great for .38 Special and .45 Auto target loads. But it is equally at home in high-velocity auto loads.

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