[color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Clubhead Speed - 125[/background][/size][/color] Its important to turn your body to get that extra speed. Its about 20% less when comparing PGA vs LPGA. Have a look at his driver and 6 I stressed this to my fitter - make sure you talk to them about your golf as they are only seeing a small sample of your game. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364403614' post='6707409'] Physics First. But the guys with a great wedge and not great length still hack it on tour because they have what matters. I remember they had the analysis of his 8 iron that he hit at firestone from like 200+ out in a golf digest or something a couple years ago don't remember any of the numbers unfortunately tho, M2, maybe Average club speed was 105-112, average ball speed was 139-152, and average rpm was between 4400-5100. Executive Director, The First Tee of Louisville, Jennifer Helgeson [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364403614' post='6707409'] Im sure most of them can squeeze out 10 extra yards on every club on this chart. The LDA guys can't hang with the short games and are wildly sporadic with their tee shots, hence why they get multiple tries. [b]Tiger Woods[/b] Not sure how you measure it down to the exact yard on an average driving range. Its important for me to have a 58 degree that works first and foremost in a bunker and then to chip with, because I use my 52 to chip with more often than not as I like to see the ball on the ground and rolling towards the hole so it has a chance of dropping in. Bump up your confidence around the greens. For as long as I can remember Vokey have been the top wedge brand in golf. I play off 8 at a championship course 7200 yards in the UK. My average distance was 235-245. I have shot level round the chammpionship course on occasion also though. A Step by Step Guide, Acceleration Graph of Hips, Chest, Arms, and Clubhead in a Pro Golf Swing. I was advised to switched to the 8 bounce as my impact is shallower than when I was previously fitted for my SM8s. 4 out of 1000 swings avg 117 mph? Driver: Titleist TSi3 (10 degrees) Shaft: Fujikura Ventus Blue 6 X 3-wood: Titleist TSR3 (15 degrees @ 14.25) Shaft: Mitsubishi Tensei AV RAW Blue 75 TX Hybrid: Titleist TSi2 (21 degrees) Shaft: Graphite Design Tour AD IZ [] But the guys with a great wedge and not great length still hack it on tour because they have what matters. Foley was talking about him hitting 8-9* down when playing his stinger. For years, Justin has quietly used his fame and financial wherewithal to help many. The false fronts, forced carries, and deep protecting bunkers are too difficult for the AMA to deal with. Bilan, I think you should rub one out before you get to first tee box. Course length, driver optimization, and course strategy are three key components to improving the performance of the AMA. Another added complication when it comes to comparing the distances that the pros hit their wedges is the differing lofts each of them often carries for seemingly the same club. If you are a right handed player the slice and above numbers could be due to a heel strike. Do you have Average Female Amature driver swing speed? It takes a detailed plan and it takes time, and this is why I think the improvement of AMAs isnt as impressive as it could be. The previous table looked at the approach distance the AMA will have based on hole length and average drive distance. [quote]I don't measure my driver distance. Elite level Trackman Golf Coaching from Expert & Award winning coaches, Scott and Jamie Howarth. Most golfers I know are happy to drive the ball 200 yards and keep it in the fairway. Graeme started playing golf when he was only 4 years old and has loved the game ever since. As for his short irons his 8-iron yardage is 165, he hits his 9-iron 150 yards and his pitching wedge 135 yards on average. Driver: GolfWRX is on the ground in Orlando ahead of the 2023 Arnold Palmer Invitational at Bay Hill Club & Lodge. Hes learned nothing Olympic legend launches scathing attack on Tiger Woods over tampon apology, Golf fans left bemused following bizarre Jim Nantz blunder, Best driver 2023: Expert club fitters recommend the best driver for your swing speed, An UP-CLOSE look at Tiger Woods famous Scotty Cameron putter, David Feherty ridiculed for Greg Norman comment during LIV broadcast, Tour pro says LIV would be done if Brooks Koepka returned to PGA Tour, TOUR REPORT: McIlroy switches drivers during Genesis Invitational (plus Tigers iron change). I guess if you don't play with guys that are good, it's understandable. Your email address will not be published. I would say probably is bs. And that is for the simple reason that pros will hit all manner of a variety of different shots with their irons, especially for their approach shots, and as such, they will hit the same iron a variety of different distances. In 2018, Justin was just the 21st player to ever reach #1 in the Official World Golf Rankings following his WGC win in Memphis. My home course is around 6200 so I can work around not bombing it off the tee but it is perplexing to me. Fan Mail Justin Thomas any 7 iron data ? However the pros have what is called a stock yardage for their irons, which equates essentially to the average distance they will hit a full shot with each iron swinging normally. Thankfully also the SM9s dont seem to be ripping the cover off your ball, but looking at the Trackman numbers the backspin was high which you'd expect from the milled grooves. Trackman stats obviously don't mean that much either. A single figure golfer all of his adult life he lives in London and still enjoys playing whenever he can with friends and family. Master the Swing Plane and Handle Path for Increased Distance and Accuracy! For example, I could average over 300 yards per round during the summer with a driver. On the LPGA Tour the top pros hit their driver an average of 257.7 yards. The attention to detail from Bob Vokey is extraordinary and you can feel the change in strike as you try many different heads. Top 50 Player Breakdown, What Irons Do LPGA Players Use? T 'enG~q/Om\#Q`{ HLRpC45`|NiG*"2agUTeu9d10S8xl?O`,`~ja~=j'(d~e?7UN+&iHPI=8NQQ={"K9R1d"3j$NJd[?@fUM)IxJ)Sn-bcVk7*"d9;&!0tB%=7$W&q&:L^q1|T]6k)SF Their experiences, time away from family, and willingness to sacrifice their lives for our freedom has truly made an impact on Justin. It's good for some laughs. That's my opinion at least. [/color] (Unimpededof course, because we always were able to play during the week). All rights reserved. FULL GUIDE By Age, Handicap etc. With all the new technology that is now available in Drivers since this article came out, do you plan on updating the information. I think some of you think too highly of yourselves & don't give tour players enough credit. 915 FD Shaft:Fujikura Ventus TR Blue 7 X, Irons: TaylorMade P770 (4-5), TaylorMade P7MC (6-PW) By Handicap, Age & Swingspeed, Should Your Driver Match Your Woods? Apex Height 112' 11" You're delusional if you think any amateur on WRX that claims to have similar numbers to the longer pros thinks they are also as good as a tour pro. Heat treatment This treatment is now applied to the impact areas of the face to increase durability. Especially the average driving distance data. Justin Couldn't of said it any better myself. A look at Brooks Koepkas yardage book below gives us a great insight into this and highlights how many types of shots pros can play with their irons. I am guarded from the bladed strike when hitting the lob shot which then builds a trust and compliment to my short game. You can post now and register later. Titleist 712 CB 4-9, MB PW KBS Tour (HS1X) And also wondering how LPGA fits into this chart. To help however answer the question as well as we can the table below shows the varying distances some of the top pros, including Tiger Woods, Rory McIlroy and Dustin Johnson, are hitting their wedges, together with the degrees of loft their clubs are listed at. WebIn 2018, Justin was just the 21st player to ever reach #1 in the Official World Golf Rankings following his WGC win in Memphis. I'm planning to change my irons this year after a number of years but before heading straight to a club fitter to test out all the latest and greatest models I thought it would be interesting to take What Driver is Most Used On the PGA Tour? a higher loft) than the actual degree loft number shown on their club. Add That Little Extra Limited is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees (at no cost to you) by linking to Amazon.com. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364414933' post='6708795'] In the bag I think the wedges looks great. Bob Vokey makes the best wedges for the best players in the world on behalf of Titleist. The average green size at Torrey Pines South is 6,000 square feet. Justin Thomas I didnt start playing until i was 31 and it was over by 42 yet my handicap was 12. There are three finishes available in SM9: Tour Chrome (matte), Brushed Steel (shiny) and Jet Black (matte). I'd really like to see Tiger's path and face numbers too among others especially seeing how far left he aims at times. As such, this article will focus on the performance of the average male amateur (AMA). I would recommend that you go visit a TrackMan certified coach, he/she will be able to help you with your club speed. Dont think they ever release that stuff. any 7 iron data ? That's what I think. Overall I cant fault these wedges for an elite player as we are aware of the slight differences of feel at strike, flight and contact with the ground. TI Taylormade SIM (9.0) Tensei CK Pro Orange 70TX Angle of attack, club speed, path, club face. Including a personal best one under 35 for nine. To find a TrackMan Certified coach, please see our locator: trackmangolf.com/locator. They think that a drives are always over 320, which they are not not even close. First of all, I would always encourage any golfer to get custom fitted for Titleist Vokey wedges because the loft/bounce/grind chart can be very confusing. Your shot versatility is obtained by a comprehensive 23 head options in different lofts, grinds and bounces. How about heading out to Wedgefield in Georgetown, SC? Smash Factor 1.475 [/quote] Not at all. It will make it a lot easier to give a qualified answer if we have all the numbers :-). [/quote] Trackman Data on PGA Tour Averages Hit It Longer WebCongratulations to Justin Thomas ! Top 50 Pros Analysis. He has an average attack angle of -1.6 degrees. Imagine being on the practice ground with Justin Thomas or Nelly Korda week in week out. Most of my longer clubs only just creep above the 200 yd mark. Lets consider the (average) approach shot distance that the AMA will have on an average par 4. GHIN reported the average male handicap at 15.3 in 2003 and 14.3 in 2012. This informative information was more helpful for golfers. Shafts: Nippon N.S. :-). STEAL THESE FROM ME! show the real time hit - then after the shot replay it with the numbers/tracer. Desired launch angle, spin rates change based on driver speed. f[yZ3 /=KCYOSg~VN@ ae@.Xq@U$ Q\8H`/ 9Hj: .1xq You can check the combine driver stats here: https://mytrackman.com/#combine. Now that you guys have more and more data from the combine tests are you going to adjust the hcap chart. What is evident is you obviously don't play with good amateur players. Srixon WG-706 56 w/ Nippon Modus Prototype C10 S You could take my woods and irons and pair it with Phil's wedge play and Stricker's putter and I'd be an average PGA tour player. Cobra Aerospeed 3W Kai'Li White The following chart shows average handicap versus average club speed. Yes, typically very short drivers of the ball are better iron players or wedge players. 5 Testers Needed! [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Ratio - 1.48[/background][/size][/color] If I slow it down some and shoot for 280-290, I hit more fairways. also his AoD on the stinger. After reading this article I did more research and discovered I should be playing nearly 1200 yards shorter, and doing so without shame. PGA, Executive Director, Golf House Kentucky | Kentucky Golf Foundation. They were measured with GPS. I think you wish you hit it further. F rom the comfort of your sofa or if youre lucky, alongside the ropes each major championship gives you a chance to see the biggest hitters in the world unsheathe their drivers and swing away. As golf instruction and coaching continue to move more towards verifiable data (what the instructor/coach knows) and further away from guess and check (what the instructor/coach thinks), we expect to see more improvement in the golf community. Everyone has one. How Often Do Pros Hit Driver? Short hitter compared to the average WRXer Carry Distance 302.9 Trackman is obviously simply a tool for fitting & in no way plays any part on your actual game. Oddly, I bet you find that you do NOT score significantly better than your handicap even though the distances are short. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Ball Speed - 185 mph[/background][/size][/color] Top 100 Player Analysis, drivers and fairway woods the top 100 PGA Tour players, How Do Pros Hit the Ball So Far? I must say to the trap draw crowd, Justin Thomas isn't hitting trap draws while winning tournaments on the PGA Tour. He doesn't have the luxury of Thomas, who was born and raised in Goshen, KY, played collegiate golf for the Alabama Crimson Tide. Shafts: True Temper Project X PXi, Wedges: Cobra Trusty Rusty (50, 55), Tour Trusty (60) This is really intersting reading and I could not agree more with the finding your distance principal. I have a terrible slice that knocks A LOT of yards off of my drive. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364353617' post='6703853'] I'll pass. Trackman stats obviously don't mean that much either. Or should i take control on the distance i have? Shaft: Aldila NV, 7-wood: Callaway Big Bertha One suggestion could be to setup course length based on club speed and optimal driver efficiency. That smash factor surprises me a bit. Short hitter compared to the average WRXer Torrey Pines South, huh? Ive tried lots of different woods shafts and lengths but seem to reach a ceiling on distance. You can follow GolfWRX on Twitter @GolfWRX, Facebook and Instagram. Granted, their handicaps are high, but it gives a lot of support to what Mr. Pelz has been telling us all these years. Thanks for posting. The strategy implemented to create 10 additional yards of carry could be from lack of knowledge regarding how far each club goes. #:>PC"ljTTZ!@8[+D py"4]F: }X@`*0gIiF1|fv3cp{c?9EkD!j> [quote name='jeffrey08250' timestamp='1364360280' post='6704435'] My teachers are always trying to get me to change my swing to generate club head speed, but this consistently leaves me frustrated and physically sore. yfvp ~ AnFVS0Y")Mb@3PNm[GVI=! WebThis is Justin Thomas TrackMan Numbers How does yours Compare? Launch Angle 11.28 Spin- 2645, 1948 low, 3745 high Top 100 PGA Tour Player Guide, What Wedges Do the Pros Use? [quote name='baseballfrk8998' timestamp='1364403832' post='6707431'] Shaft: Graphite Design Tour AD IZ 85 S, Irons: Callaway Apex Forged (2021) (4-PW) I can hit the ball a long ways, that doesn't make me full of bs. Mizuno Pro 225 5-GW PX IO It should make you a little. Close suggestions Search Search Search Search WebCongratulations to Justin Thomas with his latest victory at the Dell Technologies Championship, well played! Please limit the number of items and requests. And for those golfers looking to make more substantial improvements to their game, the TrackMan Combine provides a roadmap for the improvement journey and accurate, immediate feedback at all checkpoints / stops along the way. The driver is almost always the most talked about golf club in everyone's bag. [quote name='jeffrey08250' timestamp='1364360280' post='6704435'] I, and many amateur golfers I play with on a regular basis, have the ability to hit the ball a long way. I have also never heard a beginner or poorer striker of the golf ball say I need to lower my ball flight which is what these are said to do. I also shot 86. Youd be correct and that is why its always best to get fitted and discuss purchases with your pro. Grip: SuperStroke, Driver: Titleist 917 D3 (10.5 degrees @12) Web2/27/2012 Justin Rose COMBINE TEST 1 | TrackMan www.trackman.dk TEST INFO Date:2/27/2012 Name:Justin Rose DOB:7/30/1980 Hcp:+5 Mode:Outdoor Location:Lake Nona Temp:78 F Wind:0-5mph Notes: TOTAL SCORE Driver Statistics (avg.) WebJustin Thomas TrackMan Numbers Congratulations to Justin Thomas with his latest victory at the Dell Technologies Championship, well played! Ball Speed 176.38 Going back to Torrey Pines South, that is somewhere between the Green and White tees. The consistency of impact through the sand was staggering, I seemed to take the exact same amount of sand and impact location every time. I wouldn't take a trackman stat to the bank. [/quote] Titleist 913D3 9.5* Diamana D+ 72s Trackman is pretty interesting, obviously path and angle of attack change depending on the shot your trying to shape. Do you suppose my distance is bs? What is fascinating also though as you dig more into the figures is the distance control options the best players in the world have with almost every club in their bag! I know I'm not a short hitter & I know there's a ton of bs on this board. Upload or insert images from URL. That is why you will find some pros wedges measured up to 0.5 or even 0.25 when listed and it is also likely that some of the actual strengths of the wedge lofts they use may in reality be stronger (i.e. Vokey (TVD SM7 RAW 52 & SM6 RAW 58)- DG S400 I cant say I noticed the lower ball flight but this is something that Titleist have worked on gradually for the last few generations. I wouldn't take a trackman stat to the bank. Imagine throwing darts as the commentary teams say on television. He is giving up 30 yards of total distance off the tee, which makes his approach shots more difficult. =t 'BRvGGs.Du="dP0 J/% Np^=+,5I,F5HH#418y\PuQ5) x9.>5?2P5@B$bz.k^OY<>Vf.%,(H8,~f3YzWBpj|!8K^E`$D &XP9gBTl+= Tg{\(k@bW6o9e:&x$hx"o0@:+}UnMD($R*3|>M}18&oA>m Ed&Z):Y{J|'@*bT6|QNbge2RU'02_^^{ [quote name='J.W.' What I find funny is the number of people on here that think it's ridiculous that an amateur golfer claims to have similar numbers to a professional. I've seen plenty of tour pros hit balls & played with many good golfers. In 2019, he launched the Justin Thomas Foundation, aimed to help military families, junior golf and children in need. Grip: SuperStroke Traxion Flatso 1.0. [/quote] It has to do with my ability. Artisan MT Grind (58) DG S400 TSi2 18, VTS Silver 8xMizuno MP Fli Hi 21, Recoil 110MP-20 MMC 5-P,DG X100SM850F, 54S, 58MPXGCloser Gen 2Tour BX. Short hitter compared to the average WRXer Looking at how far pros hit their irons is a much easier task these days due to all the tracking technology that exists however it still does not make it an exact science. I think some of you think too highly of yourselves & don't give tour players enough credit. I don't play professional golf. IF a smaller easier course with less hazards I will play from blue but I am having a ton of fun and scoring between 90 and 97 consistently every time with an average drive of around 220 yards. It was soft in landing rather than quick and checking. The professionals are going to hit the ball on the screws significantly more often than the AMA. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364404259' post='6707501'] In the following table the list shows how far a selection of PGA and LPGA Tour pros hit their 3-wood, 5-wood and hybrid clubs. Scotty Squareback and Odyssey OG #7, Srixon ZX5 MKII Irons 4-PW Like New and a Titleist U505 4 Iron, OG Nike TW13 PING i59 irons Vessel Stand bag (trade). Take Bubba for example who can increase his AoA to 5-6 and hit balls 350 yards in the air when screwing around on the range however on the course he hardly does that. Someone will probably come in and explain what he should do to improve those numbers.. Callaway Paradyme Tensei 1K 70 Does Trackman update this data each year? Feel free toshare your thoughts and experience in the comment section below. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364353617' post='6703853'] Don't doubt the ability of some people to produce similar numbers to the pros. Instead, its mostly situational. The performance of these wedges really was impressive. I have always wanted a push draw and now i can see the light in the tunnel. A lot of guys come from athletic backgrounds too, and maybe took up the game at an older age. The trend right now with wedge play for all manufacturers is lowering the ball flight on the full shots. The wedge glided through the turf and nipped the ball at impact, resulting in reliable soft strikes. I play from the whites if it is more of a difficult or bigger course. 913 HD Shaft: Fujikura Atmos Tour Spec Blue 7 X, 3-wood: Callaway Rogue ST Max (15 degrees) This site is owned and operated by Add That Little Extra Limited, a private limited company whose registered office is in London, UK. When you take the wedge out of the bag you notice the fuller toe, and there is more material behind the head. The plan is to include this type of information within TrackMan University in the future, but that is likely many months away at this point. It makes the head look a little rounder, but Vokey has done a great job of disguising this weight distribution at address. Or Fox Hollow in Baltimore? Shaft: Graphite Design Tour AD IZ 95 X Hybrid, Irons: Titleist T100 (3-9) I bet a lot of my tee shots find the rough though. Ive hit greens from 210 out with a 20 degree hybrid. My SM8 wedges are a few years old and have played over the recommended 75 rounds. hard to say for sure who was at fault in the beginning i am 7 handicap play with a friend who is 26-28 i play blue he plays white even when an extra player joins me on the blue he still plays white. I can say that Trackman is second to none, and its always my first recommendation to others. This is something Im finding out at a 14 handicap. They were consistently breaking 80 if not the mid 70s and almost every time hit their drives relatively straight and 275 to over 300 yards without a problem and doing it from the blue or blacks . Skill Triumphs Over All! Here are Tiger's averages for this season on shots that were measured: TrackMan I, and many amateur golfers I play with on a regular basis, have the ability to hit the ball a long way. Dont be that person, as how your club interacts with the turf is more vital in wedges than with any other club. [quote name='baseballfrk8998' timestamp='1364408786' post='6708081'] This is so I could hit it higher and spin it more, enabling me to access that tough pin position. 3. i suggested he play white from the start and he is happy. My full swing with a driver was anout ewual to an average guys 9 iron turn. Do you have Average Female Amature driver swing speed? [/quote] The fairways where I play are very firm and I get a fair amount of roll. For example for a 170 yard shot into the green a quick glance at his iron yardages shows he could decide to play either a three-quarter 8-iron or try to hit a 9-iron as far as he can his max distance for that club. [/quote] 6 0 obj [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364353617' post='6703853'] <>stream It takes persistence and painstaking practice to regularly do drills designed to help improve your swing speed, not to mention the constant measuring to ensure you are in fact improving your swing speed. My spin dropped 500 rpm on average and my flight favoured the left side. Lol, so true.. For example, I could average over 300 yards per round during the summer with a driver. At the Sony Open, Thomas became the youngest player to shoot 59 on the PGA TOUR and broke the TOURs 72-hole scoring record by a stroke. Have a look at his driver and 6 iron swing, incl. You're delusional if you think any amateur on WRX that claims to have similar numbers to the longer pros thinks they are also as good as a tour pro. My longest drive was 270. You could take my woods and irons and pair it with Phil's wedge play and Stricker's putter and I'd be an average PGA tour player. To me, working on improving distance happens only after theyve advanced beyond the AMA category. I also play at a local par 3 course which holds the junior par 3 championship and I have shot 7 under around the par 3 course. Pasted as rich text. http://web.tigerwoods.com/onTour/seasonStatistics. |K_ %E_{/{5* Bx2 @ xM6#N When you watch the PGA Tour or any major championship on TV it is hard not to notice how far pro golfers hit the ball.
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