I mean, the best man is really the groom. Shirley, held his birthday party at McDonald's. -, "You don't just view what's happening on the screen -- you live it through every gasp and every tear, and every bit of exasperated anger(resulting) in one powerful standing ovation, the likes of which I have never seen at Hot Docs beforeDear Zachary will move you. Mr. SHEARS: I can remember being really upset and pissed off about that, happening because I had--I had friends here, and I had no time to tell anybody, basically why. This movie is the kind of nightmare no one could dream up. Mr. BAGBY: The police didn't give us very much information, but they started. Curated newsletters for curious minds. An abridged version of "Dear Zachary" will premiere on CBC Newsworld in Canada on Sunday, October 25th at 10 PM ET/PT. Imagine it. Andrew, despite his obvious abilities, was turned down by every medical school in the country. You will cry. would now have to be something else, a visual letter to Andrew's baby. In that time, it also becomes clear that Andrews fate is in danger of also becoming his sons. Well, I was hurt in an, accident. MORRISON: Winter is capricious in Newfoundland; repeatedly, spring is briefly offered and then taken back again. I am a young director, producer, stage manager, communicator, and creative organizer for theatre and multimedia artistic endeavors. MORRISON: Zachary fell asleep in his car seat. This is the first example in this story of someone seeing something bad coming but not being able to stop it. MORRISON: So different from who Andrew really was, a kind, devoted son who made Eagle Scout at 15. There is a dark pull in watching the Bagby case travel to unanticipated depths, but there are no thrills. Typically, we meet the victim not as a person but as a dismantled puzzle to be put back together by the canny viewer, who is likewise appealed to not as a person hearing about a human catastrophe but as an analytical machine capable of sorting and weighing the relevant facts. They also went to Ottawa to push the case for Bill C-464, which had been introduced by then Liberal MP Scott Andrews, at a committee hearing. (A huge thanks to the folks at Different by Design in Los Angeles, CA and Anarchy Post in Glendale, CA for making this possible and affordable.). USA | Canada | UK, Original poster artwork by Evan B. Harris, Proceeds from this film benefit the Dr. Bagby Scholarship and the Dr. Andrew Bagby and son Zachary Bursary, Watch this short film to see the quest to complete Dear Zachary and amend Canadian bail law. IMDbPro Starmeter. (SPOILER WARNING: Do not watch this short until you have seen Dear Zachary. us around. (Shirley and Zachary at birthday party; birthday party), KATE: He didn't want to open presents, you know, he wanted to get, down. David Bagby wrote Dance with the Devil: A Memoir of Murder and Loss, a best-seller in Canada in 2007, about his family's ordeal. MORRISON: And, says T.J., in the way of her opportunities to be. Couldn't be her. MORRISON: The rage was tempered with a yearning to know just why Andrew had been assassinated. MORRISON: But Shirley would make it tough for Andrew to do that. The bond between, Zachary and his grandparents grew and grew, and Shirley noticed, even from, KATE: (Audio recording) I think it was one time we were on the phone or, KATE: (Audio recording) Yeah, the baby cried, and I said, `Oh, there's my, Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) Yeah, `Oh, my baby. I'm just looking for somebody to hang out with and have fun here in school.' She. While the police investigation was still underway, Turner, a Canadian citizen, packed off to St. Johns, Newfoundland. Dear Zachary - For those who've asked how Kate & David - Facebook They began a drawn-out court battle to protect their grandson from the woman who had almost certainly murdered their son. MORRISON: Life for Andrew Bagby was good. Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) It's either in my closet or my bedroom. You can't tell them this over the phone. In New York - August 8-14 at the IFC Center, 323 Sixth Avenue at W. 3rd Street. Laudable ambition, difficult to achieve. STORY CONTINUES BELOW THESE SALTWIRE VIDEOS. Kuenne finished his documentary and dedicated it to the memories of both Bagby and Zachary. There won't be any question about, whether she can hurt him. Its hard to imagine a well-crafted rendition being as powerful.). ', Because I know you would be worried if we disappeared for a couple of days or, MORRISON: Was she planning something? MORRISON: She kept trying to get between you and the baby. KATE: (To Zachary) Kurt knew your daddy when he was a little boy. We were done," Kate Bagby said, finishing her husband's thought, a quirk of their relationship that became apparent during a several-hour recount of how their lives spiraled out of control after that phone call from police. SCREAMS. KATE: I knew exactly what my son looked at before he died. We urge you to write your MP (if you're Canadian) or the Attorney General of Canada (if you're not) in support of MP Andrews' bill; the next few months are a crucial time. Mr. BAGBY: Constable Walsh asking to call him. MORRISON: It was November 2001 when Dr. Andrew Bagby, 28 years old, was found in hospital scrubs lying facedown in the state park in Derry Township, Pennsylvania. whose parents are charged with a violent crime. We were in the way, I guess, of her trying to go to school. HOUSE OF COMMONS UNANIMOUSLY PASSES BILL C-464. MORRISON: Coming up, Andrew dead. Not too long ago? We couldn't let the authorities who let this happen get away with it. And in the meantime, without that crucial piece of evidence to charge her with Andrew's murder, Shirley Turner quietly left US soil and returned home to Newfoundland. I dont understand how that can be ignored.. If. unforgivable and that's just the way it's going to be for the rest of my life. And I saw that night her malignancy. MORRISON: Do you find yourself going back and playing that back in your mind? I'm just curious Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) Yeah, and I wanted to know for safety. January 28, 2008: It had happened almost surely the last, night they were together, and DNA tests would later prove that Andrew was, (Supreme Court exterior; court in progress; house exterior; Shirley and Shears. Newfoundlanders tend to trust each other, perhaps it's because, generally, With a skilled lawyer on hand to do Shirley Turner's bidding, the. Mr. BAGBY: And part of Andrew's problem was, I think, he was just too nice to say, you know, `Get the hell out of my life. You know? Amazon | Barnes & Noble | Walmart, DIGITAL I, Mr. BAGBY: (Audio recording) Look, we will do what is best for Zachary. And if they don't charge her, they had no way to restrict her travel. Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) I know you don't want to, you don't intend to. When he returned to the States, Shirley showed up soon after. It turns out Shirley Jane Turner is pregnant. MORRISON: What did you think when you heard that? I had a husband I loved. Its best to watch Kuennes documentary without too much background, but the basic setup is this: On November 6, 2001, Andrew Bagbys body was found, shot five times, in a park near Latrobe, Pennsylvania, where Bagby lived. And so, on August 18, 2003, Shirley Jane Turner kills Zachary. Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) His parents don't even know, do they? Dear Zachary: A Letter to a Son About His Father sounds like the kind of movie I would never want to see, which is why it took me so long to actually see it. And this is where director Kurt Kuenne is really smart. He said, `What do you mean?' This couple have endured more grief and pain that most people will endure in a lifetime. But afterwards, all wounded and broken down, you will see the power of the human spirit even in the face of the darkest of souls." He said, `What can happen?'. April 14, 2009: He said, `Well, it's 4:30 now. Subscribe here. And so he set out to collect the memories of Andrew's family and giant circle of friends. Former Production Manager at Mountain Gospel Radio. Cpl. If a suitable candidate is not identified, the award will not be given for that year. MORRISON: What did you think that she would do, kill you? 2015 - 20153 . Simpson advised his friend to call the cops and to not under any circumstances meet Shirley Jane Turner alone. Why? She was, pregnant, and the baby was Andrew's. MORRISON: And then, in the spring of 1995, Andrew found someone, a Newfoundlander, also a doctor in training, a woman named Shirley Turner. -, "Some of the week's biggest flicks aren't at Sundancefilmmakers have praised Slamdance film. They recorded them. Inspired by his mother's tales of interesting medical cases and wonderful patients, Andrew decided he would be a doctor. And I don't know, I just lay on top of her and we, MORRISON: T.J. opened the door to police, too, and heard the. Its a muddled structure, and the film makes frequent aesthetic missteps as well, with frenetic editing, canned music, and heavy-handed imagery. Dear Zachary: A Letter to a son about his father It opens with a gushing montage of the friends of a doctor named Andrew Bagby, none of whom have one real bad word about him. Mr. BAGBY: Yes. Mr. and Mrs. David Bagby will be notified of the award, and may request background information on the recipient to facilitate any contact between the recipient and the Bagbys. This is Defector, a new sports blog and media company. People in the audience were literally weeping during the post-screening Q&A." An unusually personal and powerful story of a murder, it may offer something of a counterweight to the forces of bias and prurience that often pull the genre off-track. The film is by the phenomenal writer, director and composer Kurt Kuenne. It was like Andrew died and then was reborn for a second chance. The reason we go through the lawyers is so that we. And that's when it all hit the fan, I guess. substance to it. Wait, thats not true, Sophocles came up with it when he wrote Oedipus Rex about a king who unwittingly fulfills a prophecy that foretold he would kill his father and marry his mother, and then pokes out his own eyes because hes in despair and you cant outrun destiny. Memorial University Medical School. Senior Writer and Project Manager. Bill C-464 was introduced in the House of Commons on October 22, 2009, passed the House of Commons unanimously on March 22nd of this year and passed the Senate of Canada last Thursday, December 9th, where it was sponsored by Senator Tommy Banks of Alberta. This documentary starts out like a love letter. On December 15, 2010, Governor General David Johnston gave Royal Assent to Bill C-464: An Act To Amend the Criminal Code (justification for detention in custody), making it law in Canada. Kate and David Bagby traveled to Ottawa last week to speak as witnesses for the bill before the House's Standing Committee on Justice & Human Rights. Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy and Cookie Statement and Your California Privacy Rights. It has been our privilege to have the trust and support of our East Coast communities for the last 200 years. The Bagbys, who recently marked their 50th wedding anniversary, say it sustained them for nearly a decade as . A 10th Anniversary Collector's Edition Blu-Ray and DVD with special artwork and packaging is available only from Oscilloscope Laboratories at the link below. December 15, 2009: The Bagbys still hold a bitterness when they talk about how they were failed by a legal system that let Turner out on bail and allowed her to retain custody of Zachary. Ad Choices. Around 11:30 PM Shirley came downstairs, asking to borrow T.J.'s car. -, "urgent, furiousadmirably well editedthis incredible, well-researched documentary demonstrates the vast gulf one life can leave behind." The Bagbys, who recently marked their 50th wedding anniversary, say it sustained them for nearly a decade as they struggled to come to terms first with the 2001 slaying of their 28-year-old son, Dr. Andrew Bagby, and later with the murder of Andrew's son, 13 . It turns out Shirley owned a .22 caliber handgun, which she acquired while living in Iowa. I only live a block away.' put Zachary on her lap to open presents, and he resists. I got to put on the record the fact that I would like a much stronger bill, said David. And in that time, the Canadian justice system does nothing. Someone found a car that didn't belong. Please consider joining us in this mission by becoming a member of the SaltWire Network and helping to make our communities better. (Photo of Shirley; "Canada" on building; T.J. Shears walking), Mr. T.J. SHEARS: My mom was just like, `Oh, hey.' They held their breath. Mr. SHEARS: Yeah, I guess it did at the time, but I still didn't have, MORRISON: How difficult must it have been to ingratiate, themselves with their son's suspected killer? Shirley Turner, awaiting, extradition for murder, was out of prison on bail. MORRISON: What do you do about this? When Kate reached down to wipe one away, she accidentally knocked out the plug used to mask his facial wound. And Im blessed to have David and quite frankly David is blessed to have me, said Kate. Now, she sucked us in here, too. TO ME ITS REAL LIFE. Dear Zachary avoids the first pitfall by directly confronting the second. It, (Photo of Shirley; Shirley, Zachary and David; photos of Shirley and Zachary). I had a job I loved. Digital: iTunes | Amazon | Google Play, Order David Bagby's book Oh, my God. | Learn more about Tessa Bagby's work experience, education . None of his friends liked Turner because she was often inappropriate and even harassed one of Bagbys exes and just generally appeared to be an incredibly unstable, crude, and unlikeable personbasically Bagby's exact opposite. After arriving home, she drove 900 miles back to Pennsylvania to kill the man who rejected her. ', KATE: He's so loved. We're churning. -, "This documentary will rip out your heart and leave you in the snow without a sweater. Its been more than 10 years since the Bagbys have been back to Newfoundland and Labrador. Amazon | B&N The New Yorker may earn a portion of sales from products that are purchased through our site as part of our Affiliate Partnerships with retailers. After Canadian mother killed herself and their only grandchild, U.S Thought, you know, `Who would want to kill him?'. On Aug. 18, 2003, while awaiting extradition to the U.S. on a charge of murdering Andrew, Turner jumped into the waters of Conception Bay South with her 13-month-old son strapped to her in a murder-suicide. Through a complicated series of delayed hearings and granted bails, Turner remained free for many months while the decision regarding her extradition was in process. get a chance to have some of Andrew again. Family and friends go to extraordinary lengths to honor a legacy of a young man whose trust led to tragedy. Bagby, that man about whom no one had a bad word, was left lying face down in a Pennsylvania state park with five bullets in him. with a supervisor, and we had to be searched. Mr. SHEARS: You could see in his eyes that he was full of life. GARDNER: (Audio recording) I'm not going to kid you, Doctor. KATE: I had a great childhood. The full hour will not be available online. -, "To give you an idea how powerful it is, I'll just say that there was a lot of audible sobbing during the credits.and the first question in the Q&A started like this: "First of all, holy crap. Do you understand? There was no way to stop Andrews murder, but there was no way to walk away from Zacharys body and just say hmm, okay, move on," said David. You are born, you grow up, you make friends, you get a job, a partner, a house, maybe a car, maybe a kid, maybe more. It's said there's nothing worse than the death of your child, and this film drives that point home harder and with the utmost care and precision." to live with his father in a tiny coastal village hundreds of miles away. Read the DocuWeek Q&A with writer/director/composer Kurt Kuenne HERE. KATE: I sat there and bit my lip and cried. With that kind of goodness, anything is possible. "There, is no indication of a psychological disorder that would give concern about, potential harm to the public generally as her crime, while violent, was, specific in nature." I--we both did. RELATED:California filmmaker remasters documentary on the lives and murders of Andrew Bagby and Zachary Turner. (Youll never guess who showed up on my doorstep, one of Bagbys friends recalls him saying. MORRISON: Police got Shirley Turner on the phone back in Iowa. And she followed Andrew to St. John's. I said, `This woman was in town. Interviews with Bagbys friends and family take the place of the usual lineup of witnessesas much attention is given to the fact that he always wore shorts as to the number of times he was shotand their pain functions as evidence as the film builds a case against the Canadian bail and extradition protocols. Mr. SHEARS: It seemed like it to me, yeah. He'd been shot five times, including once in the back of the head, execution style. And I said, `Who?' Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) Then I can't consent to more time right now. Kate and David Bagby traveled to Ottawa last week to speak as witnesses for the bill before the House's Standing Committee on Justice & Human Rights. https://www.saltwire.com//california-couple-want-as-many-/ saltwire.com California couple want as many people as possible to know their story | SaltWire Mr. BAGBY: The baby would be half Andrew, and that, for us, was sweet. A judge called Andrews murder a vicious crime, but did not consider Turner a risk to others. Lori Kaufman rw. It comes down to probable cause, the right to bail and the presumption of innocence. But it will also introduce you to some of the most inspiring, strong and caring people ever to grace the big screen."" Mr. BAGBY: I think it was a rage at the person who did this. I didn't have. And not just because its real. This is the kind of couple, themselves beloved by hundreds, that produces the kind of son who is beloved by hundreds. -, "When this haunting, shattering film made its premiere at Park City's Slamdance Film Festival, it received the most sustained ovation of any film I saw this year in Park City. "We had to do something.. Tessa Bagby - Producer, 1st Assistant Director - LinkedIn This is without a doubt one of the most profound, touching and moving films I have ever watched." The news and opinions youll love for only $10 for 1 year. I knew, exactly what my son looked at before he died. Published by Statesville Record & Landmark on. Andrew assured his filmmaker friend Kurt that the 40-year-old was a passing fancy. I cannot stress this enough: this movie frightened and disturbed me more than any horror film I've ever seen in my life. The tragedy here is that even if you do see it coming, that still doesnt mean you can stop it. You dont leave it behind. MORRISON: Shirley, meanwhile, seemed to be preparing for her, extradition, and perhaps she was looking for a way to exclude the Bagbys from. Mr. SIMPSON: I said, `Do not meet her in private.' The documentary was originally released in 2008. will not hurt Zachary, period. I promise within the first five minutes you will be captured by it and you won't be able to tear yourself away. The apparent culprit was a woman named Shirley Turner, whom Bagby had dated but had broken up with on November 4th, in Latrobe, just before putting her on a plane to Council Bluffs, Iowa, where she lived at the time. Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) I do have a complaint, finally. And he'd be like(turns. This was the situation with Andrews son Zachary. Meeting her at 6. Parents Kate and David Bagby's story of identifying Andrew's body is devastating. Complicating things further, she soon announced that she was pregnant with Bagbys child. On a shelf in the California home of David and Kate Bagby, sitting inconspicuously among some lovely china, are two urns. MORRISON: What was it like to hear that she was going to get out of prison? Kind of panic sets in, I guess, and that's when it all hit the fan, I guess. Dance with the Devil is David Bagby's . They still have friends in the province, people Kate said they wouldnt have survived without. But that is what the Bagbys. Wow." In the end, she died, but love did not. How else do you represent almost virtually the same crime happening back to back despite the hindsight in between? Mr. BAGBY: He's now engaged to this lovely girl, and he's going to go to med school. news about his mother and baby brother, and was slammed with instant blowback. MORRISON: Two weeks after Andrew's murder, cell phone records, would show that Shirley Turner drove all the way from Iowa to Andrew's, neighborhood in Pennsylvania, arrived there the day of the murder, and then, she, or at least her cell phone, returned to Iowa. This is a huge step forward in the mission Dear Zachary was created to accomplish. And I know, you love me, and--yeah. The Bagbys have done their best to resume life in California. I had two sisters already, so a brother, because now I'd have somebody that I can teach about hockey and, (Shears and Zachary; photo of Shears and Zachary). (Photo of David and Kate; airplane; lake and coast), MORRISON: But here's the thing. Welcome back toCold Comforts, a recurring column in which Soraya Roberts writes about the grim, harrowing, and downright bizarre movies and television shows that she nevertheless cant stop watching, over and over again. We don't--we don't gush very much. Mr. KUENNE: I think he was a little scared of me when I first came up. They are prophecies. Also, today MP Scott Andrews of Newfoundland introduced a bill in Parliament for its first reading that proposes a modification to Canada's bail code that would justify detention in custody for a suspect who is a potential danger to their own minor children. Photo courtesy of David and Kathleen Bagby, dear zachary a letter to a son about his father, Defector Freelancer Policies, Created In Partnership With The National Writers Union. And one, of the first to see her there was T.J. Shears, the eldest of Shirley's three. A security guard reported hearing a. Mr. SHEARS: When we woke up in the morning, realized they weren't there. It wasn't just to monitor the, extradition process. MORRISON: Zachary Andrew Turner, the son of murder victim Andrew, Bagby and his accused killer Shirley Turner, was born on July 18th 2002, eight, months after the young doctor's murder. David Bagby Obituary (1957 - 2022) - Statesville, NC - My Web Times But the fact that theyre probably killers means they are much more dangerous than the rest of us, probably. Dear Zachary will have its World Premiere at the Slamdance Film Festival, January 17-25, 2008 in Park City, Utah! (Trailer park; parking lot; water; Kurt on boat; excerpts from "Dear Zachary"; houses seen through rainy window; Kate and Zachary). David Bagby. Bring lots of kleenex and prepare to be equally angry and emotionally drained as you watch real, so-called justice in action. Andrew Bagby, a gregarious family-practice resident at Latrobe, was found shot to death on Nov. 5, 2001, in Keystone State Park. The psychotic bitch.) The bullets in Bagbys body were of the same type that Turner had used at a shooting range shortly before, in a gun she had recently purchased.

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